Now today’s program is going to shock many of you, and what I’m getting ready to say is going to shock many of you. Remember we talked about this a few weeks ago about what does it mean anymore when we stand up and say the pledge? And should we be saying the Pledge of Allegiance in our churches? Remember we did a whole show on that.
After that broadcast I did more research – and of course many of you started to e-mail me – and I’ve been doing a little research along the way, and I was up till quite early this morning doing more research. Are you ready? Are you sitting down, folks? Are you sitting down? We find out that some of our Founding Fathers as it turns out were actually hostile to the gospel. We’ve done a show on that the last two weeks. John Adams, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin – we’re just trying to bring you real history.
Oh yes. There are some Christian symbols in the nation’s Capitol, but we could also go there and show you Greek gods and Mason symbols. We need to have to have the history correct. As I said before, there’s revisions history in the right. There’s revisions history on the left. I’ve always been kind of uncomfortable at this Pledge of Allegiance thing even though we’ve done it at some of our conferences. Believe you me, it’ll never happen again. Do you know the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag was written – are you ready folks – written by a Fabian socialist?
The Pledge of Allegiance, that we’ve all been saying and grew up saying, was written by a Baptist minister, a liberal Baptist minister who was a Fabian socialist. He was into the social justice, social gospel, said Jesus was a socialist. And he did not like the idea of individual sovereign states. He liked the idea of a big central government, and he, Francis Bellamy, working in conjunction with the National Education Association, got America’s school children reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. Hmm. Howse, can you tell me anything else to shatter my history, my foundational understanding of American history? You keep taking things from me, Howse.
Yeah, actually you know what? That’s part of my goal is to destroy these idols. I’m very concerned about Americanism. I’m very concerned about the nationalism, and in fact, reality is you're gonna see and hear in this program, Francis Bellamy, that was his whole goal: nationalism. And I’m very concerned about nationalism or Americanism overtaking the church in America where we revere the Founding Fathers almost as some divine entities, very much like the Mormons do, and we revere the Constitution, but reality is a lot of this has been done in order to manipulate people to making the state their God. If you don’t believe me there’s a lot of material out there on this.
I was up till quite early this morning reading, and researching, highlighting. One of the people who have written extensively on this is a guy by the name of Dr. John W. Baer: B-A-E-R. And here’s what it says about him. “He and his wife, Mary, have been researching the history of the Pledge of Allegiance for the last 20 years. Dr. Baer is a retired economist and Mary is a research librarian. His Pledge of Allegiance book is footnote number one in the written U.S. Supreme Court Decision of Elk Grove School District versus Michael Newdow June 14, 2004.
Dr. Baer taught economics at Salem College and Anne Arundel Community College. Dr. Baer was an officer in the U.S. Navy and an intelligence analyst for the National Security Agency. He’s now working with Anne Arundel County State’s Attorney Office. Mary Baer does library research at the Library of Congress. Dr. and Mrs. Baer’s most recent joint publication – it’s something about urban sprawl. But anyway, Dr. Baer’s most recent publication on Edward and Francis Bellamy is Edward Bellamy’s concept of economic equality in the book Revisiting the Legacy of Edward Bellamy and is put by Edwin Mellen Press.
Dr. Baer has a Doctorate in Economic Education from the Catholic University of America, a Master’s Degree in Business Administration from Columbia University, and an A.B. from Harvard. Mrs. Baer – Mary Baer – has a Master’s Degree in Library Science from Columbia University and an A.B. in University from Radcliffe College.” Now I have no idea what their agenda is, what their goal is in all their research, but they’ve done a lot of research, and I’ve cross-referenced their research with other organizations and found it to be consistent.
The same story pops up whether I’m readying what Mr. Baer and his wife have put out, whether I’m reading from the Cato Institute – the Cato Institute, by the way, is a libertarian organization. The Cato Institute, they’re libertarians. I would agree with libertarians in small ways, where they want small government, but I would disagree with libertarians in many, many other ways. In particular I would disagree with libertarians in their view of God in theology and religion. And of course I would disagree with their idea of wanting such a small government that some libertarians would want the legalization of drugs and other things.
But reality is the Cato Institute, a libertarian organization, has also written on this extensively. So you can go out there and find a lot of this material that I’m presenting to you on a lot of different websites. Let me tell you a little bit about Mr. Francis Bellamy who wrote the Pledge of Allegiance. Let me read to you from Dr. Baer’s material. He says, “In 1892 Edward Bellamy” – that would be the cousin of Francis Bellamy. So there are two cousins, Francis Bellamy, who wrote the Pledge of Allegiance, and Edward Bellamy. Edward Bellamy, his first cousin, was very famous. He wrote a book called Looking Backward.
It was a socialist book. It promoted socialism, and he was a leader – Edward was – of a socialist movement called nationalism. Francis Bellamy, his cousin, was Vice President of the Christian Society of Socialists. They started this organization called the Christian Society of Socialists, and Francis Bellamy, the man who wrote the Pledge of Allegiance, was the vice president. And it was an auxiliary of Edward’s Nationalist movement. Francis worked as a lieutenant in the campaign to nationalize the American economy gradually and peacefully.
Hmm. Who does that? Who works to nationalize industries gradually and peacefully? Oh yeah. Fabian socialists work to do that. Do they not? Indeed they do. And we will see here that Francis Bellamy worked – and his cousin Edward – worked with the Fabians. “Two charter members of this Nationalist club became leaders in this Society of Christian Socialists,” writes Dr. Bear. Francis Bellamy, then a Baptist minister, and then Francis Bellamy became Vice President in charge of education. So he’s working – Francis Bellamy, the man who wrote the Pledge of Allegiance – with his cousin Edward. They start the Nationalist club.
From there they spin off and start the Society of Christian socialists, and they believe that capitalism is evil, Jesus was a socialist, all Christians should be in favor socialism. And this is the man who wrote the Pledge of Allegiance. Dr. Baer writes about Francis, says, “Christians should protest against such an economic system. They should demand a restructured, social order based on the principle that, ‘We are members of one another.’ ” They were taught working for, building a new order. Of course Fabian socialists always work for a new order.
That’s the end-game of Fabian socialism. “Francis believes,” writes Dr. Baer, “that the Bible clearly promoted the principle of socialism. In the New Testament Jesus preached a social gospel of the duties of the strong to the weak and the gospel of the golden rule.” Francis Bellamy – the guy who wrote the Pledge of Allegiance – is Vice President in the Society of Christian Socialists, was an active speaker and chairman of its educational committee. His lectures included “The Socialism of the Bible.” Another speech was “What is Christian socialism?” And another other one was “Jesus the socialist.”
These were the speeches that were given by Francis Bellamy who wrote the Pledge of Allegiance. He was Vice President in the Society of Christian Socialists. “He recommends that Christian ministers, like himself, should preach the social gospel,” writes Dr. Baer. By 1891 Francis Bellamy was recognized as one of the leading spokesman for his cousin’s Nationalist movement. In 1891 Edwards began a new socialist periodical of his own – this would be Francis’ cousin – called The New Nation. Many of the reformed ideas of Francis Bellamy are reflected in The New Nation. One common thread was municipal ownership of water, street car lines, gas and electricity, the right to a job. So Francis was writing for his cousins’ periodical The New Nation.
Dr. Baer goes on to say in his lengthy writings on this that, “The Nationalist movement and the Society of Christian Socialists had connections with the Fabian Society in England.” Sidney Webb, of the Fabian Society, wrote an occasional article for The Dawn. That was the name of another paper that they wrote, and sometimes Edward Bellamy wrote an occasional article for the Fabian publications. “It is generally recognized,” writes Dr. Baer, “that the Bellamy” – that’s be the Bellamy cousins – “the Bellamy type of Fabian socialism.” So there he said it.
“It is generally recognized that the Bellamy type of Fabian socialism had done more to make the American middle-class think seriously about social principles than any other force in the latter part of the 19th century. The British Fabian Society, under Sidney Webb and George Bernard Shaw, had a role in founding the British Labor Party.” And of course they did, and we’ve talked about that, haven't we? So Dr. Baer is absolutely accurate. We’ve talked about that. Don’t forget about the Fabian Window by George Bernard Shaw, designed in 1910, that was stolen in 1978 and then reappeared at an auction at Sotheby’s in 2005.
It was unveiled at a ceremony in 2006 with the Labor Party, former Prime Minister of Great Britain, Tony Blair speaking. And he praised George Bernard Shaw and Fabian socialism and hoped that the ideas of the Fabian socialists would be recognized in today’s Labor Party he wrote. This is his speech that Tony Blair gave. So Fabian socialism and the Pledge of Allegiance. Now some websites, numerous websites out there including some Mason websites, claim that Francis Bellamy was a Mason and a member of the Little Falls Lodge Number 181 in Little Falls New York. By the way, we also read that in the Pledge of Allegiance Bellamy – it’s B-E-L-L-A-M-Y, Bellamy, Francis. His cousin was Edward.
His cousin was by far more famous because of the two books he’d written, but Francis obviously running around giving speeches became quite famous as well, but numerous websites recite this, that Francis originally wanted the Pledge of Allegiance to include liberty, justice, and equality – and equality – for all, but he thought that would be too radical. So they didn't put it in. Topic today, the Pledge of Allegiance, it’s actually written by a Fabian socialist Baptist pastor. What was his ultimate goal? I’ll tell you when we come back.
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Welcome back to the program. I’m glad you're with us. Brannon Howse here at Worldview Weekend Radio. Our website’s http://www.worldvieweekend.com. We’re just learning all kinds of stuff as I’m researching – when I say we that mean you and I, together. We’re learning together as I’m writing this book Religious Trojan Horse. Of course you can count on the fact that this is gonna be a part of the book. Again, every time I turn around it seems to be a pastor that is promoting Fabian socialism. Don’t forget Walter Rauschenbusch. Remember Walter Rauschenbusch the Fabian socialist who taught at Rochester Theological Seminary and is considered the father of the Social Gospel movement?
Well Edward, the first cousin of Francis Bellamy, Edward Bellamy was greatly influenced – according to the numerous websites I’m reading – by Walter Rauschenbusch. I take that back. The other way around. Walter Rauschenbusch was influenced by Edward Bellamy. So Edward Bellamy writes these books on socialism and it has a real impact on Walter Rauschenbusch. So you can see the connections between these different groups. And isn’t it interesting that, again, Walter Rauschenbusch is a pastor? He hooks up with Harry F. Ward.
Together they start the Federal Council of Churches. It becomes the National Council of Churches. They’re Fabian socialists wanting to use the church as a vehicle to transform America, and now we have Francis Bellamy, the man that wrote the Pledge of Allegiance, a liberal Baptist pastor who is into Fabian socialism, working with Fabian socialists, he and his cousin Edward. And they want America’s school children to start citing the Pledge of Allegiance. Now the Cato Institute, which again the Cato Institute is a libertarian organization, but they’ve written an article about this back November 4, 2003, “What’s conservative about the Pledge of Allegiance?” by Gene Healy: H-E-A-L-Y.
It says, “After leaving the pulpit, Francis Bellamy decided to advance his authoritarian ideas through the public schools. Bellamy wrote the Pledge of Allegiance for Youth’s Companion, a popular children’s magazine, with the aid of the National Education Association. Bellamy, and the editors of Youth’s Companion, got the pledge, adopted it as part of the national school’s celebration on Columbus Day 1892. Bellamy’s recommended ritual” – are you ready for this folks? Because the way the Pledge of Allegiance was originally said, and maybe some of you guys – surely you're not still alive if you were doing this back – no. You wouldn't be alive.
I can’t imagine any of you were doing this. People would be dead by now. There’s no way there’s someone living that would have done this. I can’t imagine, but originally they were doing the Pledge of Allegiance with a salute that was very similar to the Heil Hitler sign. And of course after World War II, or right around World War II, that was thought in poor taste, and so it was replaced with placing your hand over your heart. Listen to what the Cato Institute author says. He says, “Bellamy’s recommended ritual for honoring the flag had students all but goose-stepping their way through the pledge.”
This is what would in the literature of promoting the pledge. “At a signal from the principal, the pupils in ordered ranks, hands to the side, faced the flag. Another signal is given, every pupil gives the flag the military salute right hand lifted, palm downward to align with the forehead and close to it at the words ‘to my flag.’ ” Because originally the Pledge of Allegiance was “I pledge allegiance to my flag.” They changed it to, “I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of American.” But originally Francis Bellamy wrote it, “I pledge allegiance to my flag.”
“At the words ‘to my flag’ the right hand is extended gracefully, palm upwards towards the flag and remains in this gesture till the end of the affirmation whereupon all hands immediately drop to the side.” The author for the Cato Institute says, “After the rise of Nazism this form of salute was thought to be in poor taste, to say the least, and replaced with today’s hand on heart gesture.” Now what was the goal of the Pledge of Allegiance? Well, in all my reading here, in all my reading of things different people have written, the ultimate goal was that kids in America would show respect toward a central government.
Bellamy was quite distressed over the idea of individual states and individual state sovereignty, and he really wanted kids pledging allegiance to a central government, and he thought instead of having them pay attention to the Constitution, and the Declaration of Independent, what we’ll do is have them pay attention to the flag. The flag will represent a central government, and then whatever the central government does the kids are pledging allegiance to it. “I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands.”
Well you say, “Republic, what does that mean?” Most kids have no idea anymore, and so it doesn't really matter what the words mean. He just wanted to get kids into citing a pledge, moving them away from the Constitution, moving them away from the Declaration of Independent, really just move them to just a national symbol to promote this idea of nationalism. Remember he and his cousin, Edward, has started the Nationalist clubs and then the Christian Socialist Societies. So they’re wanting to promote nationalism, and they felt a pledge to the flag was a great way to get kids into nationalism.
And then of course here we’ve been saying for the past few weeks on this broadcast, or months, my great concern is the church in America has largely adopted nationalism as the church in Germany did. It’s also what we would call Americanism. And here as we do more digging we find out that, “Hey. Wait a minute. Some of these guys we’re revering actually were hostile to the gospel,” i.e. John Adams, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin. And then we find out this pledge we’ve been saying, thinking we’re all good, conservative Christians by doing this in – sometimes in patriotic services in our own churches. Admittedly even we’ve done it at Worldview Weekends right around 9/11 trying to be patriotic and think, “Let’s honor our nation and the people who died for our country.”
We come to find out we’ve all been a bunch of sheeple, and we’re saying a pledge written by a Fabian socialist who thought Jesus Christ was a socialist and wanted us to concentrate on really federalism, wanted us to concentrate on nationalism, wanted us to concentrate on the idea of federalism could be a good thing, a bad thing depending on how you define it, but wanted us really to concentrate on the idea of a central government not individual sovereign states. In another publication we read this, “Why is it then that so many American school children are required to swear allegiance to the flag and the republic for which it stands rather than the Constitution? Millions of children start each day with the Pledge of Allegiance.”
And he goes on to talk about, “Wouldn't it be much safer as a republic if the children learned to respect the Constitution? If we were to place the flag in the hierarchy above it it would follow the republic.” “The flag is a symbol of the republic. It seems odd to pledge allegiance to the flag and the republic while ignoring bot the Declaration and the Constitution,” writes one author. Again, the writings out there are just prolific on this topic. Now if you go and you do some research on the Christian Socialist Society you find out real quick some of the people that were involved in this idea of Christian socialism or social Christianity.
You find Martin Luther King, Jr., Walter Rauschenbusch, Desmond Tutu, Edward Bellamy – that’s the first cousin of Francis. You find a lot of these guys out there have been promoting these ideas of a long time, but again, history – by the way, where are these conservative historians? Why have they not been telling us this? These guys that run around and give America’s history, why have none of them bothered to tell us this after all these years? The reality is we’ve been saying a Pledge of Allegiance written by a Fabian socialist. I for one won’t be saying the Pledge of Allegiance anymore.
You can do what you will, but I’m not gonna cite a pledge to the flag when it was written by a Fabian socialist who thought Jesus was a socialist and that true Christianity promotes socialism and such things as a guaranteed job and the idea of nationalizing things for ultimately a new order. I don't know. I’d like to hear your thoughts on this. It’s amazing the things – as we continue to dig we find out that the America people have gone along with, and you're wondering, “Why did I not know this before? Did anyone ever bother to check out where this pledge came from?
And then of course the idea of one nation under God came along later. It was added, and of course I’m told that it was added because there was a lot of lobbying going on by the Knights of Columbus. And if that’s true that would be an interesting fact in and of itself as well, but later is was added “one nation under God.” And some of Francis Bellamy’s relatives write that he would not have liked that at all because, again, he was interested really in the idea of the state, and getting kids to worship and revere the state, and acknowledging God in the pledge diluted that idea according to one of his relatives whose writings I was reading earlier today.
So there you go. Why I won’t be saying the Pledge of Allegiance anymore. 1-800-347-9829. I’d love to hear your thoughts, your comments on this. 1-800-347-9829. 1-800-347-9829 is the number. 1-800-347-9829. Again, as you read about Francis Bellamy, you find out he was big into the social gospel. He was big into social justice and wanted to take scripture completely out of context and have the churches and the pastors standing up promoting socialism, Fabian socialism, which again is that religious Trojan horse that I’m writing about in the book.
By the way, last night on our website I put up a video clip for you to watch – it’s about 16 minutes long – at http://www.worldviewtube.com. It’s the first 16 minutes that we’ve released of the four-and-a-half video series Religious Trojan Horse. So if you would want to watch the first 16 minutes you can do that, free of charge, at http://www.worldviewtube.com, and it’s on Religious Trojan Horse, Fabian socialist, Tony Blair, and Rick Warren, and I show you the Fabian Window. And I hope you’ll go to the website, http://www.worldviewtube.com, and I hope you will watch the 16 minutes, because in there I show you the Fabian Window designed by George Bernard Shaw.
I show you the earth, the globe that they’ve pulled out of the fire. You can see the fire right behind the man in the red suit. There’s a man in a red suit. There’s a man in the green suit, and they’re both hammering on a hot globe on an anvil, and at the top of the stained glass windows – I’ve told you before – it says, “Remould it near to the heart’s desire.” Well right behind the guy in the red suit is a fire. They’ve just pulled the earth out of a fire.
I believe that represents a crisis. They’ve just pulled the earth out of the crisis, and I believe it’s a manipulated crisis, and they’re gonna use that crisis to remold the earth. At the bottom of the window you'll see these ten people. Nine of them are kneeling and praying towards a stack of Fabian books and Fabian essays. You'll also see a little sign there in the window that says, “Hammer stoutly, pray devoutly.” Or maybe it says, “Pray devoutly, hammer stoutly.” I can’t remember what order it’s in, but it says that. “Pray devoutly, hammer stoutly.”
Pray devoutly, again, religion. And George Bernard Shaw and others spoke of their Fabian socialism as being their religion and that it would be a world religion, and I contend that the one world economy will be this Fabian socialism or this communitarianism. Fabian socialism, communitarianism are very much the same thing. In fact if you look under Wikipedia they have different social Christianity clubs and people who have promoted this idea, like Edward Bellamy, and Martin Luther King, Jr., and Walter Rauschenbusch, and Desmond Tutu. Under key concepts, one of the things they list is liberation theology.
They also mention communitarianism. They’re exactly right. Communitarianism, Christian socialism, Fabian socialism, it all goes together. And I believe that’s gonna be that woman riding the beast, that harlot system that will bring in the one-world economy and the one-world government. It will be a one-world religious structure, or as Tony Blair has said back in November, 2010 in an interview that, “Faith is gonna play a major role in globalization.” So now you see Rick Warren working with him in the Tony Blair Faith Foundation.
You know see John Piper going to hold his Desiring God Conference in April out at Rick Warren’s church despite the fact that he’s been warned over and over, and he doesn't want to believe it and has reportedly told people, according to a guy that visited with him a couple of Sunday nights at his church, that he doesn't believe any of this. And according to the man that visited with him, Piper’s quite angry. Don’t be shocked as you watch more and more of these people being co-opted. We were just in Atlanta, and Charles Stanley’s son, not Charles Stanley, not Charles Stanley, Charles Stanley’s son, Andy Stanley, recently had Michelle Obama speak at his church.
You're gonna be shocked at the people lining up with the social justice crowd. We’ll be back with your calls. They’re lit up. 1-800-347-9829. 1-800-347-9829
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Welcome back to the program. Glad you're with us. Brannon Howse here. The website’s http://www.worldvieweekend.com, http://www.worldvieweekend.com, and our website is http://www.worldvieweekend.com. The program is Worldview Weekend Radio. I’m reading and talking to you on the same time. I can’t do that. Let’s go to the phone lines. I’m reading more stuff on Bellamy to share with you. Let’s go to our phone lines. They’re lighting up. They’re lit up. If you hear someone go off the line that means that the line’s open and you can call and get in. Let’s roll through as many of those calls as we can.
Let’s go first to line 2. Let’s go to Deborah. Deborah welcome to the program. Thank you for calling in.
Well that’s a very good question. I don't know where all those originate from and I’ve also had a problem with that. I’ve had people come up to me at our conferences when we used to have a huge flag, right around 9/11, as the backdrop for our conference, and it would be touching the ground. It was a huge stand, a big steel frame we had manufactured. And we would put this gigantic flag – it was huge – and the bottom of the flag would just barely be touching the carpet. And some people would just come absolutely unglued.
And I always thought to myself, “It’s not in the dirt. It is carpet,” and it is something we don’t want to throw down in the dirt. We want to be respectful, but it is the flag. Do you set your Bible on – sometimes you’ll set it over on a ledge somewhere, or if you're gonna tie your shoe and you need to tie your shoe do you maybe sometimes set your Bible even down on the ground? Who hasn’t set their Bible down on the ground? I’m not talking about setting it down in the dirt or the mud, but I’m saying have you not set your Bible down in the ground, and sat down at an airport, and leaned against the wall, and studied your Bible, and then set it down next to you, and then picked up another book or your laptop and type, and then set your Bible back down on the ground again?
Sure you do. Is that being disrespectful? No, because you're not trying to be disrespectful. You're not sitting it in the dirt, and I often thought to myself, “Isn’t it interesting, we look at this flag and we give this flag to a level that really is almost idolatry.” So yes. I’ve always had a little issue with it myself. It seems a little over the top, but some people are very adamant about it, but I think you’ve raised some very good points. And I have no idea where some of these ideas come from, and who decides how you dispose of the flag, and all that kind of thing.
But as I did some more reading here, Deborah, I’m told by the different websites I’m visiting on this – and, again, the Internet’s quite prolific from organizations from the Cato Institute, a libertarian organization, to websites that are more like encyclopedias that you can find. So this is information that’s all over the Net by what looks like credible, educational-type sites. And one of them is putting out the idea that really prior to the idea of the pledge being put out by Francis Bellamy and the National Education Association – which, again, if you go back and research the National Education Association, they’re extremely into socialism.
They’re extremely into the idea of the United Nations, a world government. So it is interesting that Bellamy got help from the National Education Association, but one of the reports said that it was quite uncommon to have a flag being flown outside of an American school until the pledge came along. Prior to that it was almost exclusively associated with military bases, but during the campaign, The Youths’ Companion, they sold thousands of flags for use at public schools. And so it became a fundraiser as well. So very interesting, but I think your son was onto something. That’s for sure. So tell him thank you for having a discerning spirit there.
Good for him. Let’s go to Joe, line 3. Joe in Austin, Minnesota. Joe welcome to the program. Austin, Minnesota, isn’t there a big Hormel plant or something in Austin?
See I like that Hormel chili, but anyways.
Yeah. I don’t eat the spam. I do not eat the spam, but I did actually buy several cans of Hormel chili yesterday. So I’ve done my part for the good folks of Austin, Minnesota that work there.
Well it says, “Rendering to Caesar what is Caesar’s, but rendering to God what is God’s,” and I see what you're saying Joe. You may say, “To me I’m not buying the worldview of Francis Bellamy and his socialism, and his nationalism, and his Nationalist socialist party, and his social justice, and social gospel. That’s not what it means to me.” I can see that. I personally just have been uncomfortable with it for the last several months as I saw this rise of Americanism increasing in America, and then you add this information to it. It just turns by stomach to be honest with you, but I’m not gonna judge somebody that says, “To me I’m not saying it in that manner,” and therefore if they want to continue saying it I’m not gonna be a radical about it.
But for me personally, I’d already started to turn against the idea anyways and this just pushed me over the edge. But I do think the Bible does talk about – I think it’s somewhere in Matthew. I’d have to look it up. It does talk about taking pledges or oaths, and we have to be careful the kind of pledges or oaths we take. And, again, I don’t want to get legalistic, but I do want to be biblical. And I really have had an issue with this for a few months, like I said, and this has just added to it.
So everybody’s gonna have to think about it on their own, and pray about it, and see where they come down. I personally have such a disdain for Fabian socialists. I have such a disdain for these guys that are trying to co-opt the church that I don’t want to take part of anything that they’ve come up with, because as a Christian it’s a righteous anger of them trying to co-opt the church, use the church, for what in the end is the destruction of Christianity. In the end that’s what these guys want to do. In the end these guys want to use the church for their own means, which is to try to destroy the church, to limit the gospel, to outlaw the gospel, to make the things that we say on radio and our pastors say on the pulpit illegal with their hate crime laws.
And don’t forget, sustainable development, Agenda 21. That’s all part of the communitarian philosophy, and that includes hate crime laws. That includes abortion on demand, and that’s what your Fabians are for. That’s what your communitarians are for, and I don’t want to promote any agenda that they’re up to, but I’ll leave it to each person to make their own decision. Let’s go to Sandy. Sandy, welcome to the program. Thanks for calling in Sandy.
That is. It is. It’s mixing.
It does.
Thank you so much for your call. I really appreciate it. Listen to this before I go back to the phone lines. When introduced to Francis Bellamy in 1891, the pledge’s text, as follows: “I pledge allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.” And no specific flag was mentioned in the text. It was not an oversight. According to John W. Baer, this is the guy we’ve been citing earlier. He’s been studying this for 20 years. So he’s kind of become the expert. According to him, the author of The Pledge of Allegiance a Centennial History, 1892 to 1992. That was his book. “Bellamy wanted it as an international peace pledge.” Are you listening folks?
“The Pledge of Allegiance – originally Bellamy wanted it as an international peace pledge. So he hoped that all the republics of the world on their peace day would put a white border around their flag and recite it as a pledge.” The article goes on to say, “Bellamy was co-founder and Vice President of the Society of Christian Socialists.” We already know that, right? “By 1891 he was also a leading spokesman of the Nationalist movement founded by his cousin Edward Bellamy.” We know that too.
“Edward authored the 1888 novel Look Backward, a speculative fiction” – now called science fiction – “that” – listen folks – “outsold every other 19th century American novel except for Uncle Tom’s Cabin. The book describes the experience of a wealthy Bostonian named Julian West who somehow lapses into a hypnotic trance in 1887 awakening in the year 2000 to discover that America was part of a world union of socialist republics.”
So when we’re talking about “and to the republic for which it stands” didn't we have the republics of the former Soviet Union, and the republic of this? These guys didn't even mean what you and I are talking about. They’re talking about a group of socialist republics, union of socialist republics. And they’re gonna have the pledge said by all nations. “Looking Backward popularized socialism, made it interesting, and started millions thinking along lines entirely new to then,” attested J.A. Wallen, a turn of the century newspaper editor in Kansas, “Thousands were moved to study the question of socialism by Bellamy and thus became socialists and found their move to the socialist movement,” observed radical Marxist Eugene V. Debs, FDR and the New Deal, brain trust.
Do you remember Rexford Guy Tugwell also spoke reverently of Bellamy’s novel? In 1935 Columbia University asked Marxist educator, reformer John Dewey and his leftist historian Charles – I’ll give you the rest of this when we come back. But John Dewey was heavily in this folks, Marxist John Dewey.
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Welcome back to the program. I’m glad you're with us. We went to the break and was finishing saying this. Let me finish it up. John Dewey and leftist historians Charles Beard and Edward Weeks were asked to list the 25 most influential books published during the previous 50 years. The three lists, complied independently, ranked Looking Backward – that’s the book written by Francis Bellamy’s cousin, Edward – Looking Backward as second only to Karl Marx’s Das Kapital in terms of social and political impact. Wow. In the struggle to bring about the future envisioned by the Bellamy’s and their cohorts the schoolroom was the most important battleground.
In 1892 Francis Bellamy was appointed by William Torrey Harris, President of the National Association of School Superintendents, to direct a national celebration of the public schools for Columbus Day on behalf of the National Education Association. In 1892,” observes Baer, “the public school systems were still dominated by local school boards, but the National Education Association hoped to centralize education under the control of professional educators.” “Harris,” writes Baer, “was the leading” – listen – “Hegelian philosopher in the United States.”
“George Hegel” – Hegelian – “believed the state had a central role in society. He believed youth should be trained in loyalty to the state and that the public school was the institution to plant fervent loyalty and patriotism.” Patriotism as understood by Harris and his ilk requires that individuals look on the state as Hegel did, that is as the manifestation, God, in the world. Oh wow. Let’s come back to the phone lines. We’re gonna go to Sandy in Eaglewood – is that right? Georgia in Mitchell, South Dakota. Welcome to the program. Thanks for calling in.
Thank you Georgia. I appreciate your calling in. Thank you so much. My question would be “one nation under God.” What do we mean by that? What gods are we talking about? Are we one nation under God? First of all, we’re not under God anymore. If we were under God we wouldn't be doing 99 percent of what we’re doing, but what do they mean by that? It’s kind of like all faiths – and like what Glenn Beck said, “Let’s get all faiths together, unite, and look to one God.” Well we don’t look to one God. We’re a nation of many different religions and we don’t all look to the same God.
So some people have an issue with that in and of itself, but then you go back to the first point I made, and that is “one nation under God.” What God? Is it even the God of the Bible that we’re under anymore? No. We actually have kicked God out of America. So now are we talking about a universalistic god, a pluralistic god? So what does that phrase really mean? Of course it was put in there years later by – different websites say it was put in there by the Knights of Columbus, but that is another question worth throwing into the pot here and talking about. Let’s go to Neal in O-Claire.
Neal, welcome to the program. Thank you for calling in Neal.
Yeah. That’s Francis Bellamy.
Thank you sir, and there’s a lot more I could get to. The connections to George Hegel are quite fascinating in the state becoming people’s God. There’s a lot more I could get into that in some of these writings explaining what their real philosophy was behind it all. I think it was quite fascinating that when they talk about “and to the republic for which it stands” they really wanted it to be a union of socialist republics, and it would be an international peace pledge. Let’s go to – let’s see who’s next. Let’s go to Maria in Joplin, Missouri. Maria, welcome to the program. Thank you for calling in.
Thank you so much for your call. That’s good Maria. Let’s go to Carol. Carol, welcome to the program. Thank you for calling in Carol.
Yeah. I would agree with that too.
I can understand it. It would be awkward, and obviously the next time I’m in a group setting and all this goes down people are gonna wonder, “Has Howse now become a radical, a leftist?” Isn’t it interesting if you point out facts, as we did last week about some of the Founding Fathers, people e-mailing us saying we’re now supporting the leftists and the communists? Why can’t we just be supporting truth? Why can’t we just be supporting facts, history, what’s reality? What is the worldview and the philosophy? Don’t forget these are Fabian socialists. Their whole idea is you do this in small steps, incremental steps.
It’s all about stealth. It’s socialism by evolution not revolution. So why should we be shocked they’ve infiltrated our society and our culture with their philosophies to turn the hearts of our kids in the school towards stateism? That’s what Fabian socialists want. Should we really be shocked, and that one of them was a pastor? Take care.
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